Dan Brown on his new book, ‘The Secret of Secrets,’ and how he manages the writing process

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Dan Brown’s latest thriller, โ€œThe Secret of Secrets,โ€ has been published this week. Known for โ€œThe Da Vinci Codeโ€ and โ€œAngels & Demons,โ€ Brown, in his new book, explores themes of consciousness and what happens after we die, inspired by his personal reflections following his motherโ€™s death. Brown once again combines suspense, codes, and secret societies. This time, protagonist Robert Langdon is in Prague, racing to uncover the key to ultimate wisdom. Brown explains that writing a thriller requires a detailed plan to keep the complex plots organized. He writes daily and uses a wall of notes and diagrams to track the story. Brown says his views on mortality have evolved, influenced by conversations with philosophers and scientists.

NEW YORK (AP) โ€” The plots of Dan Brown's novels have so many turns that even the author has to make sure he can keep it all organized.

โ€œAnybody who writes a thriller needs to have a plan. There's a great saying that the thriller writer who starts a book without knowing whereโ€™s he's going is just lying,โ€ he told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

โ€œAnd certainly these books are very complicated. One way I sort of battle, trying to keep it all straight, is to write every single day, just to keep it fresh. If I go through two sleep cycles (without writing), it starts to evaporate. And, of course, I also have what looks like a detectiveโ€™s chalkboard in a police station. Weโ€™ve got the pictures and the yarn and the notes and the sticky notes, all that on my wall trying to keep it straight as well.โ€

Brown's โ€œThe Secret of Secretsโ€ has been published this week, a 650-page thriller and mind-bender from the author known worldwide for โ€œThe Da Vinci Code,โ€ โ€œAngels & Demonsโ€ and other million sellers. Brown again combines suspense, philosophical digressions and travelogues, along with codes and puzzles and secret societies as he dispatches favorite protagonist Robert Langdon to Prague and ensnares him in a deadly, international race for the key to ultimate wisdom โ€” what happens when we die.

Besides Langdon, the Harvard symbologist who has found adventure and trouble everywhere from Paris to Washington, D.C., Brown has brought back love interest/noetic scientist-in-distress Katherine Solomon and a New York-based book editor with a very real-life counterpart. โ€œJonas Faukmanโ€ is an anagram for Brown's editor at Doubleday Books, Jason Kaufman, who has worked with the author for more than 20 years. Author and editor are good friends, they say, although that didn't keep Brown from subjecting Faukman to abduction and other un-literary experiences in his latest book.

โ€œI always enjoy getting manuscripts from Dan and seeing where he's going,โ€ Kaufman told the AP recently. โ€œI have to ask him not to tell me in advance what he has in mind. He always finds new ways to surprise me.โ€

Brown also spoke with the AP about how he decides on his subjects, his evolving thoughts on mortality and why Prague is the perfect setting for a few conspiracies. This interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.

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BROWN: Itโ€™s no secret that I like to write about big topics and there really is no topic that is bigger than consciousness. It is the lens through which we see ourselves. And so the real challenge was how to make a concrete urgent modern thriller about something thatโ€™s so ethereal.

About eight years ago, my mom passed away about the time that I was thinking of writing about consciousness, and I started asking myself, โ€œWhat happens when we die?โ€ and if youโ€™d asked me eight years, ago, Iโ€™d say nothing Itโ€™s full stop total blackness. Over the course of the eight years that took me to write this book and all the conversations that I had with philosophers and physicists and noetic scientists, Iโ€™ve come out the other side with a totally different mindset. And in fact, it sounds crazy. I no longer fear death.

BROWN: I grew up Christian, Episcopalian, but I moved away from the organized nature of religion. Iโ€™ve always been spiritual and sensed thereโ€™s something else, but Iโ€™ve also been skeptical and said, โ€œWell, that sense of thereโ€™s just something else could just be wishful thinking.โ€ It could be because itโ€™s so hard to imagine that thereโ€™s nothing else that we just sort of say, โ€œWell, I sense thereโ€™s some thing else.โ€

And now I do sense thereโ€™s something else. And that is from an intellectual standpoint. I have not had a religious experience, a spiritual experience, an outer body experience, or near death experience. This change of mind comes from looking at the science that is happening right now in the world of physics and noetics.

BROWN: Itโ€™s called flow, a muse. Certainly, we writers have that experience of, โ€œAh, Iโ€™ve got it. Itโ€™s just flowing through me.โ€ I have certainly felt that. Not every day, unfortunately. Thereโ€™s a lot of trial and error, but that is the feeling that creative people are always looking for. My mom was a professional musician. I was brought up to be a musician. I thought I would be a musician. I still play piano every day. I studied music composition in university, and Iโ€™ve had that experience also with music.

That sort of muse moment when something flows in, itโ€™s different between writing and music. Writing sort of feels like finding the right Lego piece to put in. You say, โ€œAh.โ€ Itโ€™s almost like doing a jigsaw puzzle. Youโ€™re like, โ€œGot it. It fits.โ€ And music is a little bit more fluid. Itโ€™s like making a big brush stroke. And the melody just sort of flows in and finds its way to your hands, and then it exists.

BROWN: I mean, there are a few of them that I wonโ€™t mention because I donโ€™t want people running out, and theyโ€™re sort of off the beaten path, kind of like Prague is.

I like to use location as a character. I want to make sure that, whatever book it is, it could only be set there. โ€œThe Lost Symbolโ€ could only be set in D.C. because itโ€™s about the symbology of D.C. โ€œThe Da Vinci Codeโ€ could only be set in Paris because it is about the Roseland. โ€œThe Secret of Secrets,โ€ about human consciousness, could only be set in Prague. It's been the mystical capital of Europe since Emperor Rudolf II (in the late 16th-early 17th centuries) brought all the mystics and scribes and alchemists to Prague. And as a character, Prague is perfect for Langdon. Itโ€™s full of secret passageways and cathedrals and monasteries and all, thatโ€™s his world.

BROWN: I donโ€™t know what that says about me, but yeah, I still love secret passageways. You talk about that โ€œahaโ€ moment. Itโ€™s kind of the same thing to say, โ€œWait, thereโ€™s something here that you donโ€™t see and now you see it.โ€ Itโ€™s the same kind of sensation of โ€œaha.โ€

Dan Brown on new book 'The Secret of Secrets': 'I no longer fear death'

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